{"id":6042,"date":"2023-10-12T21:38:48","date_gmt":"2023-10-12T16:08:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.suramya.com\/blog\/?p=6042"},"modified":"2023-10-12T21:38:48","modified_gmt":"2023-10-12T16:08:48","slug":"someone-got-fired-for-not-using-windows-because-the-invasive-workplace-surveillance-tool-didnt-work-well-on-linux","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.suramya.com\/blog\/2023\/10\/someone-got-fired-for-not-using-windows-because-the-invasive-workplace-surveillance-tool-didnt-work-well-on-linux\/","title":{"rendered":"Someone got fired for not using Windows because the invasive workplace surveillance tool didn&#8217;t work well on Linux"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There are a lot of reasons why I recommend people don&#8217;t use Windows but there are times when you have to use it because it is required for work, or for other reasons such as compatibility (though <a href=\"https:\/\/www.codeweavers.com\/\">CrossOver by Codeweavers<\/a> is a lifesaver for that). Over at <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=37792013\">HackerNews<\/a>, there is a thread about a post over at Reddit (I guess people are still using it&#8230;) where a guy is claiming that &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/old.reddit.com\/r\/archlinux\/comments\/170emd0\/lost_my_job_because_i_refused_to_use_windows_who\/\">I Lost my job because I refused to use Windows, who is at fault?&#8221;<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>I have been using Windows at work at almost every company I have worked with because that is the default and most corporate apps are designed for and work only with Windows systems. Since I personally prefer using Linux I have asked (and in some cases) gotten a Linux version of the desktop for my use. The main blockers for corporations to use something like CrossOver is the problem of support. If a company is running MS Office on Linux using crossover and they hit an issue, MS can and does blame it on the setup and asks you to revert to a standard setup. I have even heard folks claiming that they (MS) have blamed custom plugins that the company was running for the issues were being highlighted. <\/p>\n<p>All that said and done I don&#8217;t think I would ever point blank refuse to use windows when my company asks me to run it and threatens termination if I don&#8217;t. Though to be honest I would have also started looking for other opportunities if I was in this persons shoes since as per their post the reason for the demand was that: <em>&#8220;A software they use for time tracking didn&#8217;t support screenshots on Wayland and I refused to switch to Windows (xorg is just no for me) to support them.&#8221;<\/em>. <\/p>\n<p>Having a program running on my personal machine that constantly takes screenshots and uploads them to a remote server is not something I would agree to do. We don&#8217;t know what company they were working for but this kind of invasive surveillance might not be 100% legal in all locations. A company might get away with it on work systems if they have a contract and the user explicitly agrees to it but on a personal machine&#8230; If the user forgets it is running and accesses their health record, or bank account or other sensitive data their employer would have a copy of that data. Imagine if they got breached, how much sensitive &#038; personal data might get exposed with this setup. <\/p>\n<p>A lot of work has been put into these surveillance technologies and there is a whole industry around monitoring people at work to ensure they are actually working. In a previous company a team wanted to put software on all office computers that would track the time the person was actually typing\/moving the mouse etc and use that to calculate their productivity and then rate them on that. After the system was demoed, I asked how it was accounting for time spent in face to face meetings, design discussions, calls etc that don&#8217;t necessarily need a computer, the answer was vague enough that the head of the department remarked that if it was implemented every single member of the management team would be rated as non-productive as a majority of their time was in meetings and discussions etc. <\/p>\n<p>During covid a lot of people were worried that folks working from home would not actually work and started tracking mouse\/keyboard activity. So people came up with ingenious solutions to ensure that the mouse was moved and text typed on the office systems. Some was done via software\/scripts others used hardware and innovation such as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?app=desktop&#038;v=ieclMmV3J88\">taping the mouse to a desk fan<\/a> amongst other methods. <\/p>\n<p>This kind of monitoring is being routinely done on employees who don&#8217;t have much options and are not able to move easily. The end result is that the company is trying to maximize their profit by nano-managing their employees and using this tech to ensure they squeeze all possible work out of them while paying the minimum amount. <\/p>\n<p>Now coming back to the original question, was it wrong to insist on using Linux when the job requires you to use Windows? If the company was giving me a laptop\/computer running windows and I formatted it to run Linux then I would be in the wrong. If I am using my own computer then I can use whatever OS I want as long as the work gets done. However if I am insisting on using Linux on a Work computer when they require windows and even after multiple warnings they don&#8217;t switch back to Windows then the company is right to fire them. (Assuming that there are no other issues such as the invasive monitoring we talked about earlier.)<\/p>\n<p>There are multiple people who will find this stance unacceptable but there is a rational behind this that not everyone thinks about. The company might be legally required to keep records\/logs of work, mails sent etc and the audit requirements would not be met if a non-compliant system was in use. Similarly the default backup and archiving systems might not work with Linux and cause problems. There are a ton of issues that would need to be worked out before having a mixed use OS landscape and if no other considerations are there then the company can be justified in firing such a person who refuses to use Windows because they don&#8217;t like it. <\/p>\n<p>Source: <a href='https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=37792013'>Hacker News: Lost my job because I refused to use Windows, who is at fault? <\/a> <\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Suramya<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are a lot of reasons why I recommend people don&#8217;t use Windows but there are times when you have to use it because it is required for work, or for other reasons such as compatibility (though CrossOver by Codeweavers is a lifesaver for that). 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